Saturday, November 7, 2009

Open Thread: Reflections on the MPRE

The November administration of the MPRE has come and gone. And while we'll (apparently) have to wait five weeks for scores to be released, that will not stop the most neurotic of us from worrying about it. Here's an open thread to do just that--enjoy!

[Ed. Note: We will remove any comments regarding test questions from the MPRE. Save us the effort by not making any such comments.]

42 comments:

  1. I was wondering why there wasn't one of these here earlier. My thoughts are that it was much harder than the prep materials but I kinda expected that. I feel like I failed because I need the highest score for my state (86) and was really not confident except for a few questions. I have no one but myself to blame because I only started studied yesterday.

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  2. I thought it was easy but I studied really hard. People tend to overlook this test because it is easy to earn a satisfactory score based on the curve. However, the content is hard and going in unprepared is a death sentence.

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  3. Worried I failed.

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  4. I definitely failed this thing. I was worried as hell.

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  5. I hate post-mortem exam discussions, but what about the question that talked about the lawyer who took the car as a gift from the client? Was that ok?

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  6. I'd be surprised if I failed, but don't really care too much. I'll just retake if I have to.

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  7. 7:06: clients can give gifts, even if substantial.

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  8. Yeah I think so 7:06 but you should edit that bc the mods will probably delete it as it is.

    Is it just me or was this test MUCH harder than usual? This was my second time and it was really really hard compared with the first which I also failed. Do you guys think the curve will be really generous because it was so hard? How many right to get a 85?

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  9. Not true 7:10 they have to report it if its substantial according ot the CJC

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  10. 7:12 = dumb. The question was about a lawyer, not a judge.

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  11. What do you have to get in order to get an 85? For NY?

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  12. Why can't we ask general questions about what the exam had on it? We don't have to ask the exact questions.

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  13. I think general questions are okay Jimmy bc the mods haven't deleted any yet. What duty does an atty have to investigate b4 filing a response to a bar form? Have to reasonably look,r ight?

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  14. As a general matter, I thought that the exam was not as hard as the Bar/Bri questions. But then again, I took over 15 practice tests, and I studied for 2 months.

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  15. there is no duty to investigate when you are asked to comment on a bar applicant. There is a duty if you know before or after a bar applicant is admitted.

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  16. 15 practice tests and 2 months? That's ridiculous. Do people even do that for the BAR exam?

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  17. I think my preparation was warranted. There is no problem with studying hard for this test. Lawyers are supposed to be professionally responsible, and studying for this test is a good measuring stick for that duty.

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  18. 7:27 that is completely outrageous. You are tool.

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  19. Does anyone have any idea how many we can get wrong for an 85? I heard we can get at least 20 wrong, is that right?

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  20. 12:49-It depends on the curve on the individual test, but in some tests students have gotten 85 while getting almost half of them wrong. Also, there are 10 unscored questions, so you could get those wrong in addition. So theoretically, it's possible to get an 85 by only answering 25 out of 60 questions correctly. This exam was noticeably harder than the old questions that MPRE has released, so I am hoping for a generous curve!

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  21. 7:27, you are unreal. I dont know another human being who took that many practice tests for this exam. Do you go to a TTT?

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  22. There aren't that many tests to be took.

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  23. What did you guys put for that question about the lawyer with the concurrent conflict of interest and the objection

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  24. That post from February is really funny, I LOLed

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  25. The BarBri lecturer (Gillen - that annoying Irish guy) said that to get an 85 you need to get between 32 and 36 right, depending on the curve in the particular administration of that test. I am assuming he meant 32-36 out of the 50 that are graded. So even if you felt like you got more than that wrong, you might still be okay.

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  26. this was my second go at the mpre. i studied this time around, and i still thought that the exam was extremely difficult. there were maybe five to seven questions that i was certain about. otherwise, the questions were quite arduous. i pray that i do not have to take it for a third time. mortified and subdued. hope you all felt better than me.

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  27. not sure how i did. I failed the summer one (but I did not study more than an hour or so) I took this one and I felt like i knew a good 20 or so guaranteed. After that there were a bunch of coin flips, but in general there were not any purely "I don't have a friggen clue" ones.

    This time I used Barbri and took 2 practice tests. I also read through the condensed outline that they have in that book.

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  28. I predict I got between an 80 and 100. Will check back in in 5 weeks with the real score. Anyone else want to make predictions?

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  29. I like this game. I say 84. Why you ask? Because I need an 85 and always manage to just barely get screwed.

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  30. I had to take the MPRE because I need to get licensed in a new state and its been years since I took the MPRE. The first time I got an adequate score without studying at all. This time I did study, and I thought it was a hard exam. Some of the questions were rather tricky, perhaps too tricky. There was one question about whether you can still practice in federal court in a state where your state licensed has been suspended--This is actually a pending case currently in court--so I am guessing this was one of the 10 practice questions. I say there were about 20-25 that I knew flat out--the rest came down to two answers and I just hoped my instincts were correct.

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  31. defintely got over a 140

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  32. federal court question had to be one of the practice, because it wasn't on my exam.

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  33. I thought that it was really difficult and I studied quite a bit. I took the MPRE many years ago and passed. Had to take it again last weekend in order to get license in another state. Walked out of there feeling like I have no idea whether I passed or not. It was quite demoralizing.

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  34. entirely agree with last comment. really difficult. definitely feel defeated. hope that i passed.

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  35. In my version, the first 15 questions are very difficult (never seen on the practice exams), but the last 45 are as the standard difficulity as the practice exam.

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  36. I think this exam was the hardest one I've taken, and i've taken 3 already. :*(

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  37. The scores are not out yet obviously, "THANK GOD", I passed the MPRE and will be admitted If I have to find a Judge shopping at the mall the first week in December!

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  38. Scores are out! I had H1N1 while taking the exam and couldn't finish the last 5 questions due to illness and still got an 89. Thank you baby Jesus

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  39. Got an 84. DAMMIT

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